Curie's law, Curie temperature and hysteresis loops, why soft iron for electromagnets and steel for permanent magnets?
A third-attempt student re-learning magnetic materials from scratch.
Rahul DubeyDropper Sample
9 Aug 2026 · 1 min read
Third attempt, so I am trying to learn the chapters properly instead of passing my eyes over them. Magnetic materials are on my "keeps coming wrong" list.
What I have so far:
- Diamagnetic: small and negative, weakly repelled.
- Paramagnetic: small and positive, weakly attracted. Curie's law: .
- Ferromagnetic: large and positive, domains.
What I don't have clear:
- What happens to a ferromagnet above its Curie temperature? I wrote "it becomes diamagnetic" and I was told that's wrong.
- Does Curie's law apply to ferromagnets too? A test question said "magnetic susceptibility is inversely proportional to temperature for" and I wasn't sure.
- Hysteresis: define retentivity and coercivity, and why do electromagnet cores use soft iron while permanent magnets use steel or alnico? I know the answer is something about the loop shape but I can't say it clearly in two lines.
- Is the energy lost in hysteresis related to the area of the loop?
I have a lot of old notes that say contradictory things, so please check my first part as well.
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[+][–]Arjun Nair12thSample· 2mo ago
Your first part is good. Add: diamagnetism is present in all materials but is overwhelmed in the other two; susceptibility of diamagnets is roughly independent of temperature. Superconductors are perfect diamagnets, .
- Above the Curie temperature a ferromagnet turns paramagnetic (domains break up by thermal motion). In that range (Curie-Weiss form).
[+][–]Kabir Joshi11thSample· 2mo ago
For Q2 the answer is "paramagnetic materials", right? since Curie's law is and that applies to all magnetic materials.
[+][–]Arjun Nair12thSample· 2mo ago
Careful. is for paramagnets. Diamagnets do not follow it (they are almost temperature-independent), and ferromagnets only roughly follow the Curie-Weiss form above . If an option says "paramagnetic substances" pick that.
[+][–]Kabir Joshi11thSample· 2mo ago
Okay, my "all" was too much. Paramagnetic only.
[+][–]Pooja Iyer12thSample· 2mo ago
Hysteresis definitions that worked for me:
- Retentivity (remanence): the B left in the material after you bring the external field H back to zero. "Retained magnetism".
- Coercivity: the reverse H you need to apply to bring the B back to zero.
Mnemonic: Retentivity = what it retains. Coercivity = the coercion (force) needed to erase it. ✨
[+][–]Zoya Khan12thSample· 2mo ago
Why soft iron vs steel is a loop-shape answer, yes:
Soft iron (electromagnet, transformer core): high permeability, low coercivity, narrow loop. It magnetises and demagnetises easily and quickly. A narrow loop means little area, so little energy lost as heat per cycle when the current alternates.
Steel / alnico (permanent magnets): high retentivity and high coercivity, wide loop. Once magnetised, it stays magnetised and resists demagnetising.
And on Q4: yes, the energy dissipated per cycle per unit volume equals the area of the B-H loop.
[+][–]Rahul DubeyDropperSample· 2mo agoAuthor
That is the cleanest two-line answer I've seen: wide loop = keep it, narrow loop = switch it fast. Rewrote the whole page of notes. Thanks everyone, this thread replaces my old mess.



