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Cr and Cu exceptions plus which electrons leave first in Fe³⁺ — 4s fills first but also leaves first, kaise?

Yash Tiwari11th Sample

14 Oct 2026 · 1 min read

Bhai ek confusion hai jo mujhe raat ko bhi pareshan karta hai.

Aufbau principle says electrons fill the lowest energy orbital first: 1s, 2s, 2p, 3s, 3p, 4s, 3d... So scandium onwards, 3d is filled after 4s. OK. Then for chromium I'd expect [Ar] 3d4 4s2[Ar]\,3d^4\,4s^2 but the book says [Ar] 3d5 4s1[Ar]\,3d^5\,4s^1. Same for copper: expected 3d94s23d^9 4s^2 but it is 3d104s13d^{10}4s^1. Sir said "half filled and fully filled are stable", but he didn't tell why.

Second, the confusing bit: if 4s is lower in energy and fills first, then when iron makes Fe³⁺ it should lose from the 3d first (the outer in energy), no? But sir said 4s electrons are removed first. Fe is [Ar]3d64s2[Ar]3d^64s^2. What is Fe³⁺ then?

Third: NEET asks 'number of unpaired electrons' all the time. What is the unpaired count in Cr, Cu, Fe³⁺ and Cr³⁺?

Mere paas ek neat table banane ka time nahi hai, so if someone can make one, bhai, you're a legend. Thanks!

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  • [+]Ishita GoyalDropperSample· 5d ago

    Here's the table you wanted 😄

    SpeciesConfigurationUnpaired e⁻
    Cr[Ar] 3d⁵ 4s¹6
    Cu[Ar] 3d¹⁰ 4s¹1
    Fe[Ar] 3d⁶ 4s²4
    Fe³⁺[Ar] 3d⁵5
    Cr³⁺[Ar] 3d³3

    For Cr: all five d orbitals singly occupied plus the 4s one. Six parallel spins, that's the maximum. For Cu³⁺... skip that, not in NCERT-level questions.

  • [+]Farhan ShaikhDropperSample· 5d ago

    For Fe³⁺, three electrons are removed, and since 3d is the last filled you lose from 3d first, so Fe³⁺ = 3d³ 4s². Cr³⁺ would be similar. Just remove from the orbital filled last, like a stack of plates where the last one on top comes off first. That's my budget trick.

    • [+]Lakshmi TripathiDropperSample· 5d ago

      Farhan, that gives the wrong answer. Rule: when a transition element becomes a cation, the electrons are removed from the outermost shell (highest n) first, which is 4s, then from 3d. So Fe (3d64s23d^64s^2) loses the two 4s electrons to give Fe²⁺ = 3d63d^6, and the third comes from 3d giving Fe³⁺ = 3d53d^5. Five unpaired electrons, a half-filled d subshell, which is exactly why Fe³⁺ is more stable than Fe²⁺.

      • [+]Yash Tiwari11thSample· 5d agoAuthor

        Ohh, 'highest n leaves first' — bas ye line chahiye thi. Thanks Lakshmi, thanks Ishita for the table. Sab note kar liya!

  • [+]Mehak AroraDropperSample· 5d ago

    Why half filled and full filled are stable (the part sir skipped): in a half-filled or fully-filled subshell the electrons are symmetrically distributed, which gives extra stability, and the electrons with parallel spins in the same subshell can exchange positions, giving exchange energy that lowers the energy. The more exchanges possible (like in d5d^5 with five parallel spins), the larger the stabilisation. For Cr and Cu, 4s and 3d energies are so close that moving one electron from 4s to 3d is paid for by this extra stability.

  • [+]Aman YadavDropperSample· 5d ago

    Exam tip. Fill by (n+l)(n + l): lower value first. If equal, lower nn first. 4s: 4 + 0 = 4. 3d: 3 + 2 = 5. So 4s first.

    But for ions: lose electrons from highest nn first. 4s before 3d. This is a rule, memorise it. Also: Cu⁺ = 3d103d^{10}, Cu²⁺ = 3d93d^9 (1 unpaired, coloured). Zn²⁺ = 3d103d^{10} (colourless).

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